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this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned she got hit with a tax bill of $363,000. >> we'll leave it there. many thanks. nbc's pete williams. now let's get right to our panel tonight. democratic strategic jimmy williams. wabz radio talk show host mark seimone and washington times opinion writer cari picket. we have a number of topics to chew on this evening. let's begin with the breaking news out of the scouupreme cour and a legal challenge major implications for federal and private benefit payments. cari, let me go to you first and get your first reaction to this. federal versus state. constitutional liberty and rights. the end of the doma act.
this one of these things, maybe the driving one, is defense of marriage act was about paying the estate act. where one of the two people said she didn't have to pay the estate tax because a married couple wouldn't have to. >> reporter: this is a case from new york. a woman named edie windsor who married her partner in canada. the partner died and left edie the estate. the federal government said we can't recognize you as married. the irs says you're not married as far as we're concerned...
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and half in non-defense, defense programs cut by 9.4% across the board and non-defense programs 8.2%. agencies are being told to identify the cuts. how will you feel them? fewer food inspections are likely. cdc budget cuts could make it harder to track food borne illness and cuts to the cancer institute, national science foundation and national cancer institute means 2,500 fewer research grants. worried about clean air and water, budget cuts will degrade the ability to protect the water we drink and the air we breathe. next, your safety. we could see fewer air traffic controllers, federal air marshalls, fbi agents, bothered security patrols. all those budgets would be cut. disaster relief funding also on the chopping block. the white house says that will undermine federal emergency management agency's ability to respond to terrorism and other catastrophes. and education could be cut by more than $4 billion. 100,000 children could lose their place in headstart. the white house says more than 25,000 teachers and aides could lose their jobs. the national education association, it puts t
and half in non-defense, defense programs cut by 9.4% across the board and non-defense programs 8.2%. agencies are being told to identify the cuts. how will you feel them? fewer food inspections are likely. cdc budget cuts could make it harder to track food borne illness and cuts to the cancer institute, national science foundation and national cancer institute means 2,500 fewer research grants. worried about clean air and water, budget cuts will degrade the ability to protect the water we...
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one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are married in those states as well as the district of columbia, their marriages would be recognized by the federal government. now, it would mean we still have a lot of work to do, and depending on how they rule in the prop 8 case, we would still need other states to move forward with the right to marry. >> right. >> thank you. it's an honor to have you on and your organization. elizabeth birch, we are in a much bigger studio. >>> the republican establishment is at war with its crazy wing. they say they lost the election because ideologues pulled mitt romney foo far to the right. that sounds reasonable. wrong
one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay person who is married? >> that would mean that couples who are...
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her defense attorney wouldn't comment. sabata wrote, i told my mom today was the best day of my life. she just thinks i met a new boy. and instead she met these boys. >> they didn't read me my miranda rights. >> reporter: what led to her arrest wasn't the youtube video, but tips from people like her ex-husband who recognized her in the bank photo. and the video, sabata brandishes a pipe she said is full of weed and complains that
her defense attorney wouldn't comment. sabata wrote, i told my mom today was the best day of my life. she just thinks i met a new boy. and instead she met these boys. >> they didn't read me my miranda rights. >> reporter: what led to her arrest wasn't the youtube video, but tips from people like her ex-husband who recognized her in the bank photo. and the video, sabata brandishes a pipe she said is full of weed and complains that
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the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the spouse of an opposite sex coup weill not have had to pay. so their defense of marriage act can being challenged as violating the equal protection guarantee in the fifth amendment. >> warner: and how sweeping, if the ruling were in favor of edie windsor, how widely would that apply nationwide? >> well, the challenge here to doma really is that only this provision in doma is unconstitutional as applied to legally married same-sex couples. the argument is that that provision discriminates against them by treating them differently from legally married opposite sex couple its. so if the court found in favor of edie windsor as the lower federal appellate
the defense of marriage act was challenged by edie windsor from new york. she had a partner for over 40 years. they were married in 2007 in canada, a new york recognized their marriage when miss windsor's partner, her spouse died. her spouse left her entire estate to edie windsor. because of the defense of marriage act edie windsor was left with almost a 400,000 dollar federal estate tax that someone who was the spouse of an opposite sex coup weill not have had to pay. so their defense of...
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justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the supreme court which will now review the decision. the court will also take up the defensive marriage act case which challenges a section of the law that defines marriage as between a man and a woman for the purposes of receiving federal benefits. this mean the highest court now has the opportunity to rule on whether gay americans have the same constitutional right to marry as hetero sexual americans. the court's decision to hear these cases comes as a series of election victories for same-sex marriage. last month washington, maine, maryland became the first states to approve same-sex
justices agreed to hear arguments about proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. proposition 8 is the 2008 ballot measure that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state of california. residents voted 52-48 to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry. the 9th court of appeals struck down proposition 8 on the basis it stripped individuals of rights previously granted when same-sex marriages were permitted in the state. opponents of same-sex marriage appealed the ruling to the...
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george takei was on the show last night, and he was offering his defense of marriage equality. let's take a listen to that. >> the core value of marriage is two people who love each other and who are committed to each other. you want security for your spouse, whatever may happen. and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood kin. and yet we deny the lgbt member of the family the same legal protections and rights that they enjoy. it's irrational. >> steve, we -- you know, this has been called a guy rights issue, but really, it is a civil rights issue. and when you hear an argument, an eloquent argument like that from george takei, it underscores the fact that this is an irrational argument, and it's almost sort of an inevitable, it's the inevitable course for the united states. i wonder what you make of house republicans who have tried to stand in the way of marriage equality. do they have a platform to stand on if the
george takei was on the show last night, and he was offering his defense of marriage equality. let's take a listen to that. >> the core value of marriage is two people who love each other and who are committed to each other. you want security for your spouse, whatever may happen. and our laws do not provide that. in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of the family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood...
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the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage absent. it defines marriage as, quote, only a legal union between one man and one woman. the law had a big effect on eddie windsor of new york who married thea spire. when she died leaving her the state, the irs sent a tax bill for $363,000 because they did not consider them to be married. >> i think ultimately just couldn't believe it. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loved for 43 something years. >> under that law, same-sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after supporting defense of marriage act the obama administration concluded last year it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting a thumb on the scale against same-sex couples. >> house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men or two men are not the sam
the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage absent. it defines marriage as, quote, only a legal union between one man and one woman. the law had a big effect on eddie windsor of new york who married thea spire. when she died leaving her the state, the irs sent a tax bill for $363,000 because they did not consider them to be married. >> i think ultimately just couldn't believe it. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with...
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country the light had been in use for navigation until just after pearl harbor when it was turned off defense i havely, now it is lit just once a year to honor those who were lost. >> that a-attack left more than 24 hundred people dead. the japanese sank or damaged 21 american ships and 188 aircrafts. that prompted the united states to declare war on japan. it was called a day which will live in em frommy. >> the national autobody counsel honored two veterans by giving them refurbished cars. >> they went to a marine and a navy soldier. they both served in afghanistan. >> and o on maf of other service members rg we appreciate the support and care. >> the group chose the anniversary of the attacks to honor the vets with the recycled rides program hillary clinton said that they are working on political transition. >> the united states stands with the sir yan people in sh syrian people in insisting that there be a unified democratic syria. >> that comes after she met with the russian prime minister. they still disagree on whether the president will have to leave the country as part of any transit
country the light had been in use for navigation until just after pearl harbor when it was turned off defense i havely, now it is lit just once a year to honor those who were lost. >> that a-attack left more than 24 hundred people dead. the japanese sank or damaged 21 american ships and 188 aircrafts. that prompted the united states to declare war on japan. it was called a day which will live in em frommy. >> the national autobody counsel honored two veterans by giving them...
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we take it all up with the foundation for defense of democracy here next. stay with us. ♪ lou: breaking news. u.s. officials confirmed that the egyptian authorities have detained a man who has been described variously as, perhaps, an alleged ringleader of an egyptian terrorist network linked to the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the united states ambassador and three other americans were killed. also tonght, egyptian president urging national dialogue still, but moving forward with his referendum on an islamist back to constitution. the new york times bureau chief in cairo, david kirkpatrick insisting that the muslim brotherhood is not, and i do ," not violent by nature and have come over the last couple of decades, you off more and more into a moderate conservative but religious moderate regular old political force. well, joining us now is jonathan chancellor, former counter-terrorism analyst, current vice president of research for the foundation for defense of democracy, and it is good to have you with us. your reaction to kirk
we take it all up with the foundation for defense of democracy here next. stay with us. ♪ lou: breaking news. u.s. officials confirmed that the egyptian authorities have detained a man who has been described variously as, perhaps, an alleged ringleader of an egyptian terrorist network linked to the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. the united states ambassador and three other americans were killed. also tonght, egyptian president urging national dialogue still, but...
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is the defense of marriage case or dome that case. specifically looking at part of the law that gives federal benefits such as tax breaks to heterosexual married couples, not to same-sex married couples. is that equal under the equal protection clause under the constitution. and the other case hollings worth vs. perry the california case. california voters approved a gay marriage ban after the state supreme court ruled that gay marriage is legal. so which one trumps the other? we don't know if the court will hear these cases separately or together, shep. >> shepard: we are hearing strong reaction really from both sides of this. >> particularly over the doma case. gay marriage advocates who want the defense of marriage act struck down say doma creates a gay-only exception to federal recognition of state licensed marriages. and we believe that the federal government should stop discriminating against same sex couples legally married by their states. but defender of traditional marriage between one man and one woman say, quote: since pre
is the defense of marriage case or dome that case. specifically looking at part of the law that gives federal benefits such as tax breaks to heterosexual married couples, not to same-sex married couples. is that equal under the equal protection clause under the constitution. and the other case hollings worth vs. perry the california case. california voters approved a gay marriage ban after the state supreme court ruled that gay marriage is legal. so which one trumps the other? we don't know if...
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. >> aaron: i love the narrative and i would be more than happy if they gave it to a defensive-only player but johnny manziel is going to get this. voters remember when he had his heisman moment against a team playing in the national championship. >> tim: he got my vote and i think he will win it johnny football. we'll be back with more. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ ♪ guts. glory. ram. romantic comedy or action? ahhh... i don't do or. or makes you choose. i want romaction. cyborg meets his baby mamma. waaa.. who wants or? i'm done with or. hit me! or...♪ huh...♪ yeah... ♪ what is it good for? ♪ ♪ absolutely nothing ♪ coke zero. real coke taste and zero calories. enjoy everything. >> tim: welcome back to "the jeep post-game show." tommy tuberville moving on to cincinnati today. which one of these hires surprised you the most? >> spencer: the tuberville, maybe it surprised some
. >> aaron: i love the narrative and i would be more than happy if they gave it to a defensive-only player but johnny manziel is going to get this. voters remember when he had his heisman moment against a team playing in the national championship. >> tim: he got my vote and i think he will win it johnny football. we'll be back with more. [ male announcer ] with 160 more miles per tank the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500....
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anybody else would have been thrown out of medical school, to the moment they declared the department of defense, after the shooting, this was work place violence. to see this latest installment now is just one long line. it should remind us, all of it, of all of our problems with libya, and with the false stories of what that was about, the attempt to immerse us in political correctness as this court's decision did. >> what about the issue of his religious rights which is the essence of his claim here that in fact it violates his decision to shave his beard. >> let me tell you that some years ago, a rabbi was told he could not wear a yarmulkah on a base, and that went before the high court and still, that court was reversed which had given him permission. no, you cannot wear, against army regulations, anything like that. >> so, this is going overboard. >> overboard indeed. >> to appease in essence, a political correctness about the muslim faith? >> this is civilian judges on this court. no, these are not army judges who made this decision. >> yes, that's correct, and this is the thing that no o
anybody else would have been thrown out of medical school, to the moment they declared the department of defense, after the shooting, this was work place violence. to see this latest installment now is just one long line. it should remind us, all of it, of all of our problems with libya, and with the false stories of what that was about, the attempt to immerse us in political correctness as this court's decision did. >> what about the issue of his religious rights which is the essence of...
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the foundation for defense of democry joins us he in moments. the unemploymt rate drops. so did the number of worers in the labour force. we will be taaking abouthis economy and what washington is trying to do to it and us next trying to do to it and us next with peter wallace and. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ound for less than the ups store. thas right. i'vlearned the only way to get a holay deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. ithis a trick to get spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedexffice. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional pr
the foundation for defense of democry joins us he in moments. the unemploymt rate drops. so did the number of worers in the labour force. we will be taaking abouthis economy and what washington is trying to do to it and us next trying to do to it and us next with peter wallace and. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ound for less than the ups store. thas right. i'vlearned the only way to get a holay deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. ithis a trick to get spot? [...
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does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for that, as think should. having said that though, the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that it puts the economy in a second recession, and heaven knows that's the last thing that obama wants. so the pressure on obama may not be immediate, but it is there. let's remember, by the way, chris, i think it's always important to remind people, your viewers, what we're talking about here. if we all end up diving off this fiscal cliff, it doesn't make the deficit worse. it makes the deficit better. it would go a long way toward curing the deficit, but the deficit isn't the immed
does he really want to take all those cuts in domestic and defense spending? aren't there some things he really thinks will hurt the economy over which he's the steward right now? does he want a second depression? no. a second recession. >> it will hurt the economy. i agree entirely. i think the short-term pressure is much more on john boehner, that he has -- if we go to the first of the year and taxes have gone up on everybody, i think that people will largely blame the republicans for...
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but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now. why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like many, but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. first time ever done so. there's a big public opinion trend here. since '04, polls have been asking people should it be legal or illegal for gay couples to get married. 59% of people said they thought it should be against the law. in 2012 it was almost the opposite. 53% favor making it legal. pew has been asking the question since 1996. when 65% of people were against same-sex marriage. by october of this year, 49% were for marriage equality while 40% opposed it. one more set of numbers. gallop released their polling this week. 53% of people polled support legalizing same-sex marriage. but look inside the poll. among young people 18 to 29-y
but the court also said it would hear a challenge to the defense of marriage act passed under president clinton that defined marriage between a man and woman for the purposes of federal law. the question is why now. why did the supreme court choose this moment? nine states and washington, d.c. all recognize same-sex marriage now. that doesn't seem like many, but it's happening quickly. three of those states people voted to legal marriage in november. first time ever done so. there's a big...
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panetta, secretary of defense, actually is in the act saying there would be retaliation, do you believe that? and what would be the consequences of that? >> i think everybody believes that. and i think the deputy foreign minister believes it, too. which is why the key phrase there was we wouldn't commit suicide. he knows that if they use these weapons, that there would be a massive retaliation on the part of the united states. and i don't think we should undermine his credibility just because he said "if." take israel for instance, doesn't admit it has nuclear weapons. that's accepted. >> you think rather than us, nato would be interested in getting involved? >> i think pat is right that if they use those weapons, they would be completely isolated. and it would be a coalition of everyone across the globe. >> nato forces, you got the turks there and the americans. the americans have the air power. and the israelis in the neighborhood have it, but they don't want to get involved or shouldn't get involved. but only the americans could do that, and frankly, i don't think we could blow up al
panetta, secretary of defense, actually is in the act saying there would be retaliation, do you believe that? and what would be the consequences of that? >> i think everybody believes that. and i think the deputy foreign minister believes it, too. which is why the key phrase there was we wouldn't commit suicide. he knows that if they use these weapons, that there would be a massive retaliation on the part of the united states. and i don't think we should undermine his credibility just...
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zimmerman has claimed he acted in self-defense. the motions will be heard during a hearing set for tuesday. >>> an independent review of the deadly september 11th attack in libya is set to be released. in a letter to colleagues on the senate foreign relations committee today, senator john kerry indicated the report will be done soon. the letter also says secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before the committee before the end of the year about the report's findings. however, we're told a date has not yet been set for that. during the assault, four americans, including ambassador christopher stevens, died when a group of terrorists attacked the u.s. mission in libya. >>> it has been 491 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing get it back? president obama asked congress for $60 billion for states affected by superstorm sandy. the request comes at a time when lawmakers are arguing how every dollar is spent. >>> our fourth story "outfront," an historic announcement. the supreme court decided today i
zimmerman has claimed he acted in self-defense. the motions will be heard during a hearing set for tuesday. >>> an independent review of the deadly september 11th attack in libya is set to be released. in a letter to colleagues on the senate foreign relations committee today, senator john kerry indicated the report will be done soon. the letter also says secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before the committee before the end of the year about the report's findings. however,...
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the supreme court has also agreed to review the a challenge to the national defensive marriage act. >> they have to solve this on a national level because there is just too much administrative confusion right now. who can visit who in the hospital, who gets health benefits. which marriage count, all of these questions. >> as for what happens now as juliette said, lawyers on both sides argue their case before the justices in march. that decisionfected by june. >>> the battle over same-sex marriage has a unique story here in california. we are the only state that has ever allowed it and then band it. in 2004, over a period of month san francisco issued some 4,000 marriage licenses under the direction of the then mayor. the marriage were outlawed in 2008 with the passage of prop 8. that ban was later ruled unconstitutional. same sex marriages will remain on hold until this case is finally settled by the supreme court. >>> ken, folks there i'm sure cautiously optimistic. >> reporter: yeah, allen. you would expect in the gay friendly district people would be overwhelmingly glad and approvi
the supreme court has also agreed to review the a challenge to the national defensive marriage act. >> they have to solve this on a national level because there is just too much administrative confusion right now. who can visit who in the hospital, who gets health benefits. which marriage count, all of these questions. >> as for what happens now as juliette said, lawyers on both sides argue their case before the justices in march. that decisionfected by june. >>> the battle...
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lou: is our shannon pointed out, taking on proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. it looks like it might be a little broader than we might have expected. >> it could be, but they have narrowed a broad, potentially broad, decision before. you have two swing justices here. the chief justice and, you know, obviously, the other guy that everybody's watching, but i don't think you can predict this one. adam, a really well-respected legal scholars, thinks they would narrow it, and i suspect he's right. lou: going through a lot of trouble, creating controversy and hoopla for just a little thing. you know, it's the day of big issues and little results. >> you got to love it. when it comes to love and marriage, they have the urge to merge on the supreme court, merging them together. we love that. lou: very quickly, the last
lou: is our shannon pointed out, taking on proposition 8 and the defense of marriage act. it looks like it might be a little broader than we might have expected. >> it could be, but they have narrowed a broad, potentially broad, decision before. you have two swing justices here. the chief justice and, you know, obviously, the other guy that everybody's watching, but i don't think you can predict this one. adam, a really well-respected legal scholars, thinks they would narrow it, and i...
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they've watched as our defense capabilities have been reduced with massive cuts in the defense budget, and perhaps more on the way. we've seen a president who is very comfortable with american decline, who seems to think that the united states is part of the problem, who thinks that a strong, assertive america with a major place in the world is part of the problem and is happy to have our influence recede. i think the vice-president's emphasis on our lack of credibility is quite significant when you hear administration spokes people talking about syria and tell assad there will be consequences if he use chemical weapons. what do they mine, indicting him in the international criminal court? that's their idea of serious consequences. it's no wonder that neither assad nor other dictators pay attention to us. >> greta: it's a real immediate risk that something will happen to those chemical weapons with the president of syria, and if something does happen, it will be a minute before tens of thousands of people will be dead. i'm curious. what would you -- number one, with 20/20 hindsight, w
they've watched as our defense capabilities have been reduced with massive cuts in the defense budget, and perhaps more on the way. we've seen a president who is very comfortable with american decline, who seems to think that the united states is part of the problem, who thinks that a strong, assertive america with a major place in the world is part of the problem and is happy to have our influence recede. i think the vice-president's emphasis on our lack of credibility is quite significant...
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and if the truth is absolute -- it is the absolute defense. >> was this only recourse? couldn't he just gone on and written a response to the response? was this his only recourse? >> sure, he could have another response, ask for it to be taken off, just ask for them to take it down. because a lawsuit is very, very expensive. and who knows at the end of the day if there will be money to pay for it? >> what does he need to do? >> he has to prove it is true or opinion. so opinions can't be defamation, i can say don lemon is a jerk, and that is my opinion, but if i said you were a convicted felon, that is not just my opinion, that is false. >> i want to read a statement we got from perez's attorney, saying she would abide by the judge's ruling, saying lawsuits can have a chilling effect on free speech. their intent is to use a lawsuit and the process of expensive legal fees to intimidate customers who have had bad experiences from sharing those with others. so what kind of precedent does it set? >> well, i have to say, most don't sue on these things, very expensive, you cou
and if the truth is absolute -- it is the absolute defense. >> was this only recourse? couldn't he just gone on and written a response to the response? was this his only recourse? >> sure, he could have another response, ask for it to be taken off, just ask for them to take it down. because a lawsuit is very, very expensive. and who knows at the end of the day if there will be money to pay for it? >> what does he need to do? >> he has to prove it is true or opinion. so...
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he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can positi himself as sort ofthe protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear centives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff. do i think that's what he wants? probably not, but do i think there are incentives fo him to do it temecula. gerri: never looked at it that way. as you look at this debate on going, there are a lot of folks who say we will be flirting with recession or in recession ifwe do go over the cliff. do you agree? >> that happens only if we go off the cliff and stay off for an extended amount of time. to we don't go into recession just because we don't have a resolution on january the first. it's a question of whether we have no resolution at that time but it seems that it's likely to a come within a short time. the longer we go into january with no resolution the more likely that we do go off the cliff into recession. gerri: the broader concern is if we confined in the ground. great to h
he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary of defense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can positi himself as sort ofthe protector of u.s. national security. so there are some clear centives to the president to lead the country over the fiscal cliff. do i think that's what he wants? probably not, but do i think there are incentives fo him to do it temecula. gerri: never looked at it that way. as you look at this debate on going, there...
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the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of marriage act, the obama administration concluded last year that it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same sex companies. >> reporter: house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men and two women are not the same thing as a marri
the court also agreed to hear a challenge to the federal defense of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >>...
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. >>> not only will the supreme court hear the prop 8 case but also a challenge to the national defense of marriage act. >> they've got to solve this as a national level because it's just too much administrative confusion right now. who gets health benefits. who can visit who in the hospital. all of these, which marriage counts. all of these questions. >> lori little calls it an historic time for the supreme court, a decision that is as big as brown versus the board of education which said separate schools for black and white students was unconstitutional. >> this is equivalent to the supreme court take on one of the most devicive sort of exciting constitutional questions of this generation and deciding that they have to issue an opinion on this. >> so, for now gay marriages in california remain on hold. >> that stays in place and will stay in place until they issue their decision which probably won't be until june. >>> gay couples in san francisco's castro district are cautiously optimistic the nation's high court will rule in their favor. cbs 5 spoke with a number of them about the co
. >>> not only will the supreme court hear the prop 8 case but also a challenge to the national defense of marriage act. >> they've got to solve this as a national level because it's just too much administrative confusion right now. who gets health benefits. who can visit who in the hospital. all of these, which marriage counts. all of these questions. >> lori little calls it an historic time for the supreme court, a decision that is as big as brown versus the board of...
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reducing spending on military and national defense, 53%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the poor, 51%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the elderly, 34%. compromise is an interesting issue, but as you tackle it, it becomes complicated. that is a quick snapshot of this survey. we have some vignettes that will follow. some of the respondents, we got on video. ron has done that also in print. thank you very much. >> more now from "national journal." congressman allyson schwartz sat down with "national journal" ron brownstein to talk about the fiscal cliff, job creation, and deficit reduction. >> let me introduce the moderator, ron brownstein. he is the editorial director of "national journal" and the "atlantic." he oversees political coverage coming out of our company. he writes a weekly column for "national journal" and is regularly on major cable networks and the real networks. dare i say, he is the most astute political analyst in washington. we have had changes. gene sperling at the last minute could not make it. ther
reducing spending on military and national defense, 53%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the poor, 51%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the elderly, 34%. compromise is an interesting issue, but as you tackle it, it becomes complicated. that is a quick snapshot of this survey. we have some vignettes that will follow. some of the respondents, we got on video. ron has done that also in print. thank you very much. >> more now from "national journal."...
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>> bill, do you know where i heard that exact same explanation, defense? i heard it when wall street wanted deregulation. "we have to be competitive in the entire global economy. let's deregulate wall street so we can compete internationally." i don't believe that for a second. look, the issue is we live in a country where millions of people really have not had the opportunity to learn about the dynamics of what goes on in american society. major, major issues literally, get very, very little discussion. so the bottom line for the fcc has got to be, "how do we create a situation in which the american people are hearing a diverse range of ideas so that our public world has the kind of debate that it needs?" >> but what about the argument that people make that the internet, the thriving of the internet, let a billion opinions bloom diminishes the tyranny of monopoly? >> let me respond to that in two ways. "a," the internet is enormously important. it is growing. but the bottom line is that most people today still get their information from television and fro
>> bill, do you know where i heard that exact same explanation, defense? i heard it when wall street wanted deregulation. "we have to be competitive in the entire global economy. let's deregulate wall street so we can compete internationally." i don't believe that for a second. look, the issue is we live in a country where millions of people really have not had the opportunity to learn about the dynamics of what goes on in american society. major, major issues literally, get...
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one thing they could do is strike down the federal law, the defense of marriage act, which says for federal purposes, tax benefits, access to people in hospitals, marriage is only between a man and a woman. they could just strike down that one and leave the rest up to the states. >> there's a whole range they could do. are the justices in any way influenced by the changing public opinion on this issue? we've seen a dramatic shift in favor of gay marriage. >> reporter: that's the most interesting question in this case, dan. ten years ago, the supreme court would have decided this one way, probably unanimously or close to that. ten years from now, it will go the other direction. we're right at the hinge of history on this issue. does the supreme court crystallize what seems to be this emerging consensus, as you point out? or as conservatives should do, yelling stop. the court has this really interesting moment in which to decide one of the most controversial issues we are discussing today. >> at the hinge of history. a lovely phrase. terry moran, anchor of "nightline," who anchored "nightline
one thing they could do is strike down the federal law, the defense of marriage act, which says for federal purposes, tax benefits, access to people in hospitals, marriage is only between a man and a woman. they could just strike down that one and leave the rest up to the states. >> there's a whole range they could do. are the justices in any way influenced by the changing public opinion on this issue? we've seen a dramatic shift in favor of gay marriage. >> reporter: that's the...
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his defense of her a couple weeks ago from the podium was really unique and frankly defensive. so if this is who he wants, he has every right to nominate her and the senate has every right to say no. >> david, before i let you guys get out of here, i had katon dawson on a few minutes ago. saturdays we like to engage in speculation a fair amount. he didn't say whether he would take a nod from governor hailey for that senate seat. if you were a betting man, who would you bet that the governor gives the nod to that jim demint senate seat? >> i'm also a south carolina native so i have a bit of a stake in this. >> i knew i liked you. >> i made some calls. my money i ges would be on tim scott if you made me bet on it. >> how about you, shira? >> yeah. tim scott as well i think is a smart move politically for nikki haley to appoint him to the senate. >> david jackson, "usa today" and a fellow south carolinian i just found out. >> gamecocks. >> shira, are you from south carolina as well? >> no. i'm from pittsburgh. >> that's close enough. >> great town. >> shira toeplitz from "roll cal
his defense of her a couple weeks ago from the podium was really unique and frankly defensive. so if this is who he wants, he has every right to nominate her and the senate has every right to say no. >> david, before i let you guys get out of here, i had katon dawson on a few minutes ago. saturdays we like to engage in speculation a fair amount. he didn't say whether he would take a nod from governor hailey for that senate seat. if you were a betting man, who would you bet that the...
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it could go either way. >> reporter: as the only defensive player left, te'o is no stranger to adversity. this fall, in a span of six hours, his grandmother died and he lost his girlfriend to leukemia. the senior came back the next saturday, intercepting two passes, leading the fighting irish to an undefeated season, making notre dame relevant again, playing for a national championship. tonight, the voters will decide who deserves it more. and at this point, experts say, it's anyone's race. a few days ago, college football handed out the other individual awards. best quarterback went to manziel. best player in the country went to manti te'o. that could be a sign for tonight on who is going to win the heisman. >> can't they share it three ways? >> reporter: not exactly how it works. >> johnny schriffen. we should call him johnny basketball. he's got some good game. i've seen him play. >> reporter: expect when i hurt my ankle. >> we should say, on espn, our sister network, tonight at 8:00, that ceremony will be broadcast live on espn. >>> this next story starts with a simple holiday pictur
it could go either way. >> reporter: as the only defensive player left, te'o is no stranger to adversity. this fall, in a span of six hours, his grandmother died and he lost his girlfriend to leukemia. the senior came back the next saturday, intercepting two passes, leading the fighting irish to an undefeated season, making notre dame relevant again, playing for a national championship. tonight, the voters will decide who deserves it more. and at this point, experts say, it's anyone's...
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reducing spending on military and national defense, 53%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the poor, 51%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the elderly, 34%. compromise is an interesting issue, but as you tackle it, it becomes complicated. that is a quick snapshot of this survey. we have some vignettes that will follow. some of the respondents, we got on video. ron has done that also in print. thank you very much. >> allyson schwartz of pennsylvania talked about the fiscal cliff and other democrats and republicans will reach a compromise before the deadline and other issues on the agenda. this is 45 minutes. >> thank you. let me introduce the moderator of the program. he is the editorial director of national journal and the atlantic. he oversees the political coverage coming out of our company. he is regularly on cnn and major cable networks. he is the most astute analyst in washington political analyst. we have had changes in the program. jean could not at the last minute make it today. apparently there is a meeting going
reducing spending on military and national defense, 53%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the poor, 51%. reducing spending on programs that benefit the elderly, 34%. compromise is an interesting issue, but as you tackle it, it becomes complicated. that is a quick snapshot of this survey. we have some vignettes that will follow. some of the respondents, we got on video. ron has done that also in print. thank you very much. >> allyson schwartz of pennsylvania talked about the...
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here to weigh in senior fellow defense studdies lt. colonel tony shaffer. set up for the audience who is bashar assad? >> bashar assad is the former president of the syria took over in 1971. and ruled frank whether i an iron fist assad took over in. there was hope that there would be reforms and much like other dictators who come in. it's double down and continue the same policies and trends as his former -- the person he replaced. we saw this in north korea and we are seeing it again. >> talk about the latest news. there are reports that assad has weapons of mass destruction. potentially saran and mustard gas. your thoughts, we use them? is he capable of using them? >> absolutely capable. and military well trained in them. let's be very clear here. the russians have done a good job of training and equipping the syrian military. that's very important. the russians have helped do this. russian supplied material. with that said, the question becomes will he use it? does he have the will? >> absolutely. but i would argue only if his back is against the wall. t
here to weigh in senior fellow defense studdies lt. colonel tony shaffer. set up for the audience who is bashar assad? >> bashar assad is the former president of the syria took over in 1971. and ruled frank whether i an iron fist assad took over in. there was hope that there would be reforms and much like other dictators who come in. it's double down and continue the same policies and trends as his former -- the person he replaced. we saw this in north korea and we are seeing it again....